Just a Brown Wagon Passing Through

"I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker" (qaaaaa)
06/28/2018 at 07:48 • Filed to: None

Carry on.

DISCUSSION (19)

Jay, the practical enthusiast > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
06/28/2018 at 07:52

I this a wagon or a hatchback? I don't know how to tell anyone.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
06/28/2018 at 07:59

These things are total sleepers. I heard it does 0 to 60 in 5.5 seconds!

Wobbles the Mind > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
06/28/2018 at 08:07

There might be six production Honda passenger cars ev er sold in the US that can do 0-60 mph in 5.5 seconds or faster. CR-V is not even close.

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > Jay, the practical enthusiast
06/28/2018 at 08:07

Kinja'd!!!

Per Torchinsky. I think these rules are perfectly reasonable. And they mae the CRV a wagon.

Ash78, voting early and often > Jay, the practical enthusiast
06/28/2018 at 08:07

I’m sticking with the idea that most small/medium crossovers are hatchbacks because the cargo area is shorter than the rear seat (alternatively, the distance from pillars C to D is shorter than from B to C).

Cé hé sin > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
06/28/2018 at 08:23

I just saw a brown, manual, diesel, Mondeo estate/ wagon. Isn't that exciting?

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > Ash78, voting early and often
06/28/2018 at 08:34

It’s all in the roofline. It’s about 1/3 wagons, 2/3 hatches in the crossover scene right now I think.

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > Wobbles the Mind
06/28/2018 at 08:35

7.4 seconds on these . So, with a tune....

MR2_FTW - Group J's resident Stig > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
06/28/2018 at 08:37

There really needs to be another rule stipulating the length of the cargo area. If the cargo area is not roughly the same length as one of the doors, it’s a hatch. Wagons are long, hatches are just short wagons.

Kinja'd!!!

Basically if Blue is greater than or equal to R ed, it’s a wagon. If Blue is less than Red, it’s a hatchback.

duurtlang > MR2_FTW - Group J's resident Stig
06/28/2018 at 09:01

When it comes to crossover vs wagon there’s a simple rule of thumb; a wagon has a sedan or hatch equivalent. A crossover does not, or at least not one that’s virtually identical from the B pillars forward.

So, the CR-V is not a wagon. It’s either a hatchback or a ‘fat hatchback’ (=crossover). I think it’s clear it’s the latter.

Your rule is problematic for small wagons. Example, the subcompact Renault Clio. Here’s the wagon:

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For reference, the hatch version:

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The wagon is the same car as the hatch, but with a longer cargo area. The cargo area is still short from an absolute point of view, but it’s much longer than in the hatch.

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > MR2_FTW - Group J's resident Stig
06/28/2018 at 09:12

A hatch isn’t just a shorter wagon. Liftbacks are hatches. You can’t just stretch them and have a wagon. It’s all in the pillars. Wagons have 4, Hatches have 3.

Ash78, voting early and often > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
06/28/2018 at 09:31

The tricky part with that approach is that all these overly- raked rear wagon windows (coughAudi) would virtually make them hatchbacks, which doesn’t quite feel right.